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  1. Hey Michael,
    The paypal link appears to be the same as the email link.

  2. Michael says:

    It is…you go to Paypal and that’s the email address you use.

  3. Nonnie says:

    Thank you for sharing that beautiful testimony and ministry.

    Jesus truly is the great healer….

  4. Josh Hamrick says:

    Who is the person? Did I miss that in the article?
    Sounds great, but I wouldn’t give to a blind paypal address, or recommend it to others.

  5. Muff Potter says:

    Michael,
    This the true religion spoken of in the book of James.

  6. Michael says:

    Josh,

    I can’t write any identifiers for security reasons.
    More information can be obtained through the email address.
    I understand your concerns, but I have known this person for years.
    I trust the Holy Spirit will guide those who are moved toward giving.

  7. Bob says:

    Thank you Michael for the report. This is following God’s instructions in the best way.

    This was a worthy read!

    And yes if your friend would allow you to post more details about the organization I believe we would all appreciate it.

  8. Michael says:

    Muff,

    I believe so as well…

  9. Michael says:

    Bob,

    I’ll ask.
    As some of you know I’ve almost drowned myself in studies and information about the state of violence in Mexico.
    My friend can’t be careful enough in my opinion…

  10. Muff Potter says:

    Michael,
    I remember in a previous thread that you mentioned something about having a heart for the State of Israel and I concur, but I also believe that she has the sophistication and means to take care of herself. The people you’ve profiled here are right in our own backyard (so to speak) and they have no such sophistication & means. Who will be their advocates if not us?

  11. Michael says:

    Muff,

    Do you mind if I frame that? 🙂
    I heartily concur.

  12. I often believe that conflict is the way to intimacy. War often leads to nations being allied. Broken marriages are healed by horrific clashing. It is hard to hate those with whom you have bled after the matter has been concluded. Strange but true.

    So I often tell a spouse to go home and start a fight but only if you are willing to stay through the mess.

    Pain is the avenue of redemption. Great conflicts bring great salvation.

  13. Michael says:

    Just for clarity’s sake, and for the critics.
    This is a Calvary Chapel church doing this mission.
    If you cannot support anything related to any CC church anywhere for any reason, by all means move on and support the good works you can.
    I frankly don’t care if these folks are 15th degree Masonic elk worshippers if the kids get clean water and some access to medical care.
    This is not an endorsement of the whole of CC polity, though there never has been a sniff of scandal around this church.
    Ever.
    I disagree with my friend ecclesiastically and doctrinally, but we agree on Jesus and the need we see.
    That’s what matters to me.
    As to the question of why I don’t go…as I’ve said about a hundred times on this blog I have health issues.
    I don’t go into detail, nor should I have to in order to satisfy the curiosity of folks who hope they are severe.
    I can’t believe I actually felt compelled to write this…

  14. Michael says:

    BD,

    That was brilliant…

  15. Bob says:

    I have grown less “spiritual” and more practical in these matters. I appreciate the threats in Mexico because missionary friends of mine have had to leave their ministries because of threats on their lives by locals. Mind you this wasn’t just in the border towns but deep in the heart of Mexico.

    Something I learned from a Mormon acquaintance one night. We were walking down a street together in California headed to a restaurant for dinner. Along the way the was a beggar asking for money, my Mormon acquaintance pulled out a couple of bills and handed it to the man without interrupting a beat. No questions and no challenges, just handed him the money.

    Of course I had to ask if he was worried how the man would spend the money. His answer, No. He explained he was trained to just help others when they were in need, no debates, no proselytizing and how he used the funds was between god and the man.

    Changed my perceptive a bit. A man is need help him out. Simple and practical.

    The Mexicans are in need, help them out.

  16. Michael says:

    Bob,

    Thank you…

  17. Michael says:

    I don’t do a thread on Mexico as often as I would like so this is a good opportunity to point out the links on the right side of the blog if you want further information on our neighbors plight.
    This video is from an author with an excellent new book out on the situation as well.

  18. Muff Potter says:

    I frankly don’t care if these folks are 15th degree Masonic elk worshippers if the kids get clean water and some access to medical care.

    I feel the same way Michael. I couldn’t care less what a man’s purported beliefs are. I care far more what the content of his character is and what deeds are produced by that content.

  19. Michael says:

    Muff,

    Exactly.
    The accusation is that this is a paid political advertisement for CC and a distraction from the issues we’ve dealt with here on a regular basis.
    What I see is a good man leading a good church doing a great work.
    Not many are willing to take the risks he’s taking for these people…and that is what I wanted to show and support today.
    I believe there is a time to address those issues and there is also a time to lay aside our differences for the sake of the kingdom.
    My conscience would condemn me if I did otherwise.

  20. Josh Hamrick says:

    For the record, my concerns had nothing to do with CC or anything like that, only with sending money to an unknown paypal account.

    I’m can only assume who it is that is upset over the CC stuff.

  21. Gary says:

    I’m glad to hear about this outreach!

    The gospel is one part compassion for the body and 2 parts compassion for the soul. Start with meeting the physical need- the felt need. Listen while the healing begins. Then give out the good news. Stick around to nurture both the body and the soul. Giving out the gospel without meeting needs or follow up produces seeds on rocks. Feeding the poor without giving out the gospel just prolongs suffering. Gotta do all three. I don’t mind being the odd man out on this.

  22. Michael says:

    Josh,

    That’s a legitimate concern and I have an email out to see what more I can say.

  23. Michael says:

    Gary,

    I think most would agree with you and I do as well to a degree.
    I’m for meeting critical needs just because they need met…if we can give out the Gospel as well, thats a bonus.

  24. Josh Hamrick says:

    @ 23 – All good Michael, I just wanted to make clear to everyone that your # 14 was NOT in reference to my # 5.

    🙂

  25. Michael says:

    Josh,

    Probably a good idea the way things are misunderstood here.
    Clarity is a good thing… 🙂

  26. London says:

    “The accusation is that this is a paid political advertisement for CC and a distraction from the issues we’ve dealt with here on a regular basis.”

    1. It is your blog and you can write about whatever you damn well please. You owe no one any certain amount of airtime on their pet issues!

    2. How the hell arrogant, self absorbed or naristic does a person have to be to make a statement like “people getting clean water is a distraction from me being able to debate theological theory with my friends over the Internet” anyway?

    3. People are ridiculous!

  27. London says:

    And for the record, that’s not about josh.

  28. Josh Hamrick says:

    @ 28 – Thanks for the clarification, London 🙂

  29. Michael says:

    London,

    I really do care about all the things we write about and all the people involved in them.
    I have a love and respect for my friend in this article and I also love the fellow who is unhappy with it.
    I just have to follow my conscience a day at a time.
    The unsettling thing for me as a general observation is the realization once again that we’d rather talk about negative actions than positive ones.

  30. Steve Wright says:

    I agree about being careful with specifics. Someone we support down there had to pull all facebook activity for safety reasons. Only took a few weeks too before that decision became clear as the wise thing to do.

  31. Michael says:

    Steve,

    When this guy told me where he was going, I didn’t believe it till he proved it.
    God’s hand is on him and those who help him.

  32. London says:

    The fellow who is unhappy about it needs to get over himself.

  33. Linnea says:

    Michael said: “The accusation is that this is a paid political advertisement for CC and a distraction from the issues we’ve dealt with here on a regular basis.”

    To the detractors, I’d say, since when is love in action a distraction?

  34. Michael says:

    Linnea,

    I hope it becomes a focus…we can deal with the negatives as well, but we must see and appreciate the good whenever we can.

  35. Nonnie says:

    Well said, Linnea!!!

  36. PP Vet says:

    “So I often tell a spouse to go home and start a fight but only if you are willing to stay through the mess.”

    Awesome.

  37. PP has become near sacramental in effect.

  38. Michael says:

    BD,

    Not quite… 🙂

  39. sarahkwolfe says:

    Again, another moment when I wish I had unlimited resources.

    Saying a prayer for this ministry…

  40. brian says:

    “I frankly don’t care if these folks are 15th degree Masonic elk worshippers if the kids get clean water and some access to medical care.”

    Exactly

    As to why I am supporting them with what I can, because my friend Michael asked me to. Funny how that works and no this is not directed at someone who asked good questions.

    If we spent 1/10000th what we spent on two wars we did not and could not win, no offense to the fine people that served, on the issues in Mexico and dealing with drug issues on our side of the border. Could be wrong and money does not solve all issues, but it is a part of solving most issues.

  41. Good thoughts, Brian.

  42. I will say though, I haven’t seen govt.money solve anything. War on poverty, war on drugs and the war on terror. We spend oodles of money only to find ourselves still hearing the same thing year after year. Nothing is solved.
    I am not a big fan of believing that civilization will just get better and better. I have seen people do evil things. I see that civilization is just a thin veil just waiting to be torn from in front of our faces and the whole charade revealed.
    That is why, when I read things like this, it lifts my heart and shows me the active work of God in the world and it shows me that He is there and He cares. That is where money should go.

  43. Nonnie says:

    Amen, Brian and Derek!

  44. This is The Phoenix Preacher at its (his) finest!

  45. Muff Potter says:

    I am not a big fan of believing that civilization will just get better and better. I have seen people do evil things. I see that civilization is just a thin veil just waiting to be torn from in front of our faces and the whole charade revealed.

    Derek, I too have seen things that will haunt me to my grave. You might enjoy reading David Mitchell’s Cloud Atlas. He deals with this very thing and how thin the veneer really is. He also points out the immense power we have as individual drops in a big ocean to change the future for good or bad. By the way, I thought the movie was well done too.

  46. Just added Cloud Atlas to my Amazon wishlist. Once I have a job and money coming in regularly, I will probably buy it and read it.

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