Things I Think

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  1. Jean says:

    Great thoughts today. Lots to chew on.

    I think I will ponder #9, while I go out for a short dog walk. My dog is always grateful. He’s one of my mentors. 🙂

  2. Babylon's Dread says:

    Yes this is a very noisy political season… Wish it were not so common… and frequent

  3. Michael says:

    Had I been born 20 years earlier than I was, I would be long dead already.
    We fill our senses and our time with all negativity and anger.

    Perhaps the great sin of this country has nothing to do with sexual proclivities or abortion,but is ingratitude for all that God has given us.

    Of course, I could be wrong about it all.

  4. Dallas says:

    Three strong reactions to this post.

    First, “WOO-HOO, Things I Think”.
    Second (to number 5), “I agree”, but in words that I won’t post here.
    Lastly, big smile to number 10.

  5. JTK says:

    “there’s never been a better time to be alive in human history and we have all the resources necessary to address our issues.”

    Preach it, Phoenix Preacher!

  6. bishopdave says:

    #6–I find good prices on hygeine cleaning and toilet paper at Family Dollar/Dollar General stores.

  7. Michael says:


    I hope a lot of us start preaching it…

  8. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    People take all of this political stuff too seriously. It makes very little difference – rarely does any candidate act on what they promised. When was the last time a party plank was successfully implemented?

    My wife an I differ some politically but we get along. I will probably vote for Hillary just to get that woman issue off the plate. My wife yesterday morning was down at the bait & tackle shop talking Trumpisms with the 2 old fart owners.

    She still is a little irked that I voted for Jerry Brown the last 2 times around – but hey, I just did it because I thought he would be more fun than his 2 GOP rivals who without Google I am sure no one remembers.

    The things we think matter, don’t – not in the least – who won Super Bowl 47?

  9. Em again says:

    great post this morning and looks to be a great thread of comments, too

    1-hmmm, didn’t Robert Frost write something about walls make good neighbors? (joking)
    2-peace and quiet really doesn’t exist in today’s economy anywhere, does it?
    3-taking back America is like me wanting to be 18 again… time moves on period, until God, Himself says “enough, game over”
    4-kind of funny, if you think about it,can you find a Christian business that isn’t using products from godless, multi-national corporations for a start?
    5-oh amen, amen
    7-focus, focus, focus – which isn’t easy today – but the quiet joy of the Lord is so sweet
    8-i bought two E-books from Amazon, one turned up on google’s cloud and i don’t know where the other one went … all it takes it someone pulling the plug and goodbye data – i like an old fashioned external hard drive for my stuff
    9-makes me remember something my late husband said regarding the scripture “in such a time as you think not the Son of Man comes” … maybe, He’ll come when we think we’ve finally got everything under control?
    10-i need to come to grips with my mortality pdq and get a will made… think i’ll do that this week

    God keep

  10. Seraphim says:

    Interesting link on diversity.

    I’m a millennial, and I am just going to share a few observations. I think income inequality in America is what is tearing this country apart. I think it perfectly explains why Bernie is so popular on the left, and Trump is popular on the right.

    Most of the young adults I know are struggling under the weight of student debt/private debt, diminished job opportunities (despite college), and many are living at home well into their late 20s/early 30s. Many of them are not even married.

    I think it is interesting that most of the examples cited in that link are from Europe.

    I think Europe compared to the US and Canada has done a terrible job at assimilating people from different culture. The situation there is much different than the United States. The US is in a much better position going forward.

    It is much easier to assimilate people from Latin America, and East Asia compared to many of the migrants Europe is seeing.

    Canada, and the US has done a much better job of welcoming immigrants, and assimilating them into the culture. The problem with places like Germany, and France, is that Islamic culture is not only completely alien, there was never any encouragement for refugees to speak the native language. The Turkish population living in Germany is a great example of this. Turks were never welcomed in Germany, and were never really encouraged to speak German.

    I do agree that there has to be assimilation by immigrants into a nation, in order for their to be success.

    However I think it really depends on what groups are immigrating. Immigrants from East Asia tend to do pretty well in the US, and if I could wager a guess, I believe that is due to the fact that most Asian immigrants tend to have high education aspirations, and desire/ability to speak English. Asian families in America are really one of the last bastions of the traditional family.

    I think the break down in social trust in America however has more to do with income inequality, and the break down of the family that has been expanding since the 1970s. What started out as a break down in African American families, has now become the new normal for even White families.

    The poor are getting poorer, and the rich are getting richer. Many middle class white Americans who were formerly prosperous in blue collar fields are being decimated in the new economy. A record # of people are no longer even in the work force.

    Since the financial collapse in 2008, the economy has not gotten better. We are in a state of decline, and most of that has to do with the fact that there is a giant sucking sound coming from the financial industry.

    The biggest driver in Trump being selected as the GOP nomination is the continue decline of middle America.

  11. Jean says:


    Thank you for your comment. It’s good to have a millennial voice in the mix here. I have a millennial son, who shares some of the demographics you described.

  12. Em again says:

    #10-Seraphim, good words and clear thinking – worth reading and pondering

  13. Jim says:

    Re #2- I’m bringing my wife…

  14. Dave says:

    I sure agree on #8. The cloud is just another name for a bunch of computer centers that you can access from anywhere on the internet. So – your data is stored on a hard drive in somebody else’s unidentified data center supporting the cloud. Better to have a copy under your own control.

  15. Rob Murphy says:

    I think the increasing venom in culture has interesting intersections. Embracing lawlessness cannot be equated to being grace-full. The end of my freedom is the beginning of your nose. The intrusiveness of scofflaws and violation of the once “common” decency have combined to lower tolerance and now vigilance is required, and vigilance balances on the razor’s edge of vigilantism.
    The pendulum swing of disdain toward the ruling elite reaches to increasingly tenuous and explosive atmospheres.
    Interesting time. Everybody I know who has always followed “the rules” of polite society are done toting the weight of a culture that mocks all the values that keep the lights on.

  16. London says:

    I love the cloud.
    So convenient for people in the go. Don’t have to worry about being able to access stuff I need if my laptop dies, or I lose it on a plane etc.
    Of course I back up stuff in a hard drive too, but Dropbox has been one of the best tools I’ve ever used.

  17. Papias says:

    “There is no cloud… its someone else’s computer.”

    I get the cloud, its ease of access is great, so long as you are connected.
    But I still buy most of my music on CD..
    I still have an old version of Logos on CD that works well, even when not connected to the interwebs.
    Back in the olden days before PCs, there was this thing called mainframe. Kind like a big computer that could be accessed thru terminals. Worked great so long as your terminal was connected and the mainframe was up or not too busy. Not so much if one or more of these things was impacted.
    Then PCs came along and everyone kept their stuff locally. Worked great if you backed your stuff up.

  18. Xenia says:

    I always imagine “the cloud” to be the fog bank hovering over the Googleplex off Hwy 101.

  19. Mr Jesperson says:

    I personally identify with #2, and I am digging in deeper on #5 after watching some of the FallenAngel documentary on Larry Norman. I have had to deal with #7 personally within the last year. I have learned that keeping my eyes on Jesus is more than just a catchy phrase Christians use, it can be practiced with note-worthy results. I agree with #9, to focus exclusively on the negative is to lose true focus. I understand #10 and would add one thing to it. Since I accepted that the final judgment will happen and everything I have ever done will be one day known to all that has freed me considerably. It is quite stressful trying to keep things hidden in a closet. Because everyone else’s will be open too, there will be no one pointing fingers at anyone. Quite liberating.

  20. Randy says:

    I live in the Deep South, where we are supposed to be rednecks, KKK, racist, pickup truck-driving, gun toting crazy people. Redneck means something different here. It simply means country. I drive a Ford truck, participate in a few redneck. My neighbors are black and white. Everyone gets along fine. The reason is because everyone is in the same economic class. Here economics has more weight than race. Money divides no matter what race.

    However when the government imports large groups of people into relatively homogeneous communities, you have a problem. For instance, I’m in the panhandle of Texas right now. Out in the middle of nowhere and suddenly there was a community of Somalies here. It will never be a melting pot because they don’t have to intergrate into society. And Texans are a little suspicious of Muslims.

    Government cannot remove racism. It can create environments as in the 50s that help but really, the only thing that can change racism is the natural social forces of a community. Getting to know each other, losing suspicion of each other.

    But because of government interference in the last few years we have a new phenoma, tribalism. Everyone gets divided into tribes. Tribes only look out for their tribe and no one else. Tribes may be racial or might not be. Even Chtistians are formed into a tribe. I’m not sure that can be fixed. It is really a return to an ancient behavior.

  21. Babylon's Dread says:


    I think Randy is correct. The liberal American experiment is determined to accomplish by fiat, force and coercion whatever it wills.

    Once a hegemony has been established the forces of liberalism then use intimidation to shame people into compliance. How is it possible that simple opposition to gay marriage on the grounds that same sex experience does not constitute a union somehow makes you a bigot.

    The gleeful peppering of epithets against anyone who dissents has now become normal.

    When you sow discord you should not be surprised if you reap anger.

    Tribalism is indeed the way of things today. Tribalism means you fear your extinction at the hands of another tribe. America is gleefully spreading it in the name of liberal democracy.

    I actually believe Gospel people can stem the tide, I believe kingdom people can overcome evil with good, but the way forward is fraught with conflict.

    Of course when a bigot speaks hopefully he also makes himself a hypocrite.

    Mine Has No Bounds Dread

  22. Steve Wright says:

    Sort of related to item 8 as well as a couple of the political posts.

    We all know the power of social media. How about when that power is manipulated for a partisan political purpose….

    The conservative whistleblowers from facebook have quite a tale to tell.

  23. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Facebook probably needs to edit the news trends for this purpose; who wants to follow the reading trends of people who want to show me that they are having mashed potatoes for lunch.

  24. Em again says:

    #20-“Money divides no matter what race.” – there is a lot of wisdom coming from the south…

    i have formula, too – political power plays + social engineering = divisive and complicated

    i just listened to the Attorney General of the United States say that we need to be sensitive to the needs of transgendered people …?… how about the needs of those of us who are just plain old gendered?

    here’s a plan – build new bathrooms that are one stool, one urinal and one sink, build as many as are needed – build as many as you need all lined up like a row of closets, if need be… come to think of it, these places used to be called water closets – build them out of fiberglass, molded shells with floor drains then all the janitor has to do is hose the thing down with disinfectant … think of the savings … think – outside the box

  25. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    I used to have to use the old French water closets when I lived there 1960 – 1963. Those were pretty nasty as you had to walk on the same floor you did your business … and some folks didn’t hit the hole when they did their #2 business.

  26. Babylon's Dread says:

    The future of public elimination looks very nasty indeed.

  27. Patrick Kyle says:

    1. I don’t think it’s entirely a ‘Gospel Problem’ on our part. The movement of Mexican nationals into the US is the largest mass migration in human history. Much is made of the need for cheap labor in this country, thus the need for mass immigration. Stop to ask yourself if native Americans are have a tough time financially, then how can these immigrants, who get paid less, survive here? Answer: The cheaper wages paid by business are subsidized by welfare, food stamps, and our education systems. So these businesses get cheap labor while we pick up the rest of the tab. Secondly, illegal immigrants who avail themselves of our education and welfare systems are stealing from those citizens whom the system was built to help and from those who pay into it. End of story. Third. When you have a population that comes here illegally and is slow to assimilate (or in many cases refuses to do so) what is the difference between immigration and invasion other than the speed and violence with which it happens? How will this not adversely affect the dominant culture here? As Christians, I understand that we want to be compassionate to the stranger, and on a case by case basis for individuals or families I’m for it. However, when what is going on is more akin to invasion I fear my Christian brothers are confusing the two kingdoms.
    8. The ‘Cloud’ Always been suspicious of it. Whoever thought it was a great idea to put all your important data on a server that isn’t yours, for a fee? What happens if you can’t pay? Who else gets to see it? Sounds like a scam to me.

  28. Michael says:

    They are not subsidized by welfare, or food stamps.
    We’ve posted this before.

    This is not difficult information to verify.

  29. Michael says:

    I’m frankly tired of debunking the same things over and over again.
    We are going to be very intentional about growing as much of our berries and veggies as we can…because wait till you see what they cost at the store very soon.

    There is a big labor shortage in agriculture in the West…because it was already difficult to get here and back again and Trump has scared the hell out of many.

    I’m pretty much done trying to reason with people with facts…I’m going to grow my own and then watch SSI collapse just as I get eligible.

    Time to shut up and let the consequences speak for themselves.

  30. Michael says:

    Last but not least… the Mexican migration has been at net zero or negative since 2012.

  31. Seraphim says:


    You are flat out wrong concerning mexican migration. It is not the largest migration of people in human history. On top of that like Micheal has already pointed out. Net migration from Mexico is pretty much zero or negative at the moment.

    The untold story of demography is the fact that Asians are now the fastest growing immigrant group coming to America. Multiracial/ethnic millennials is one of the fastest growing demographic groups. Many of those who are half hispanic/white and half hispanic/asian actually identify as white.

    The reason it is probably mostly ignored by the mainstream media, is because it does not fit the narrative that the liberal media wants to portray.

    None of this changes the fact that America is facing some serious financial issues.

  32. surfer51 says:

    “The answer then is to rid ourselves of these people and reestablish the (formerly) homogeneous culture to the greatest degree possible.”


    We here in California have passed a law that any “migrant” in any trade is eligible for a California license to practice in our state.

    Problem is most migrants either know not of this new law that got passed a year ago or they are apprehensive that it might be some kind of a trap to identify them.

    I am not sure if any federal laws are being transgressed by this.

    This law will possibly ease tension or it will escalate tension depending on which side of the issue one resides.

    But it does seem, to me, like a step towards an attempt to address the situation in a leveling of the playing field.

    If one holds a valid California license to practice a trade, then one can no longer work for cash under the table and with out overhead of insurances and taxes.

    As a painting contractor this is good news, because I have had to compete with people in my trade who don’t share in overhead costs so they can bid jobs way lower then it is possible for me to bid.

    If they get licensed, no matter what their status, citizen or not, then all of us will be on a level playing field as it were.

    This is the reality as I see it.

    And the migrant licensed person will now actually make more than if they didn’t have a license because they can charge more than they were charging for their services.

    I think California is doing this to increase their tax income because corporation in California are “off shoring” their earnings and not paying much tax.

    The average small businessman in California pays around $4800.00 more per year because big corporations don’t pay their fair share of taxes.

    Bringing the migrants on board to pay taxes is one way that my state is coping with the reality of the present moment.

    No walls, just grab ahold of the rope with all of us and pull like everyone else here…

    We welcome you to our world.

  33. surfer51 says:

    I always chuckle when I hear someone say “the liberal media.”

    Most media is overwhelmingly far right corporate media as far as I can see.

    Liberal media is an urban legend.

  34. once a cc guru says:

    Most media is overwhelmingly far right corporate media as far as I can see.

    Liberal media is an urban legend.

    Really? what planet do you live on? Perhaps you need to change your eyeglass prescription???

    CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NYT are as far left as it gets. The problem is that closet liberals don’t even recognise what “left” is anymore… “The Ministry of Propaganda”

  35. Melody says:

    “there’s never been a better time to be alive in human history and we have all the resources necessary to address our issues”

  36. Patrick Kyle says:

    Been on food stamps, stood in the lines, know teachers whose schools are struggling under the burden of immigrant children, know people who work in the Court systems who have told me that crime committed by illegals is ‘not insignificant.’ Worked with illegals at various jobs and had them tell me what was up and how the system works. Quote your articles and believe what you want.

  37. Michael says:

    I can tell anecdotal stories from the other side too…I published facts that all can review .

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