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  1. Nathan Priddis says:

    Marvin Olasky out!?!? No way.

    I remember his social capital ideas circa 2000. At the time it scared the crop out of me.

    George Bush had just won the White House and Social Capital ideology had momentum. A public/private partnership seemed like the way of the future, in how social services would be delivered. I saw it as the pathway to total church corruption.
    My concern was the federal funding of church based social services would be the equivalency of crack cocaine for pastors.

    But in just a blink, Social Capital was forgotten on the ash heep of time.

  2. Em says:

    Lots of intriguing titles here……

  3. bob1 says:

    Pretty obvious that World has lost all cred. Very sad because they’ve done some outstanding journalistic work. Not anymore apparently.

  4. bob1 says:

    If this article is any kind of bellwether, looks like CT may be stepping in to fill the void now that World is basically a right-wing opinion rag.

    Incredible and credible reporting here.

    “The Christian Peacemaker Who Left a Trail of Trauma”

  5. LInn says:

    I hate to say that American Christendom is going to Hades in a hand basket, but between the “Let’s Go Brandon” article and the other on Michael Flynn, I would throw in the towel-EXCEPT Christ has promised to build his church with or without the people that claim to be a part of it. That is the only thing that is giving me hope for the church right now. Meanwhile, I’ll pray, I’ll attend my church that is not too political (but it always seems to be just below the surface), I’ll serve, and i’ll look for those in the body who are not politically swayed but kingdom swayed. Now, I’ll go have a good cry.

  6. BrianD says:

    “Let’s Go Brandon” chants at a God-fearing, Christ-centered church….we really do live in an inhuman society.

  7. Duane Arnold says:

    “a God-fearing, Christ-centered church…”

    I have my doubts…

  8. LInn says:

    Duane at 5:30 am

    Anything to do with John Hagee is probably whacko, starting with the fact that the AOG disassociated themselves from him years ago because of a an extra-marital affair that went very public.

  9. Xenia says:

    Linn, I think these extreme spectacles make the news, and thereby make us aware of them, because they *are* spectacles. The media is not highlighting the churches full of Christians who don’t follow the whackadoodle line of the Far Right. They don’t feature articles about churches that feed the poor, clothe the naked, and visit the captives because it’s not sensational. These types of genuine Christian stories don’t even show up in the weekly Linkathon all that often in proportion to the “Can you believe this awful thing some “Christian said this week?”

    Don’t despair. The Church is out there, but you have to bypass the sensational churches with the celeb pastor, The professional rock band, the Disney-land children’s ministry and the rock concert youth group. Look for the small and humble and there we will find Christ.

  10. Xenia says:

    Oddly, there’s a difference between a Bible-believing church and a Christ-following church.

  11. Linn says:


    I am not despairing, I know there will always be some kind of church to attend somewhere, but even my middle-sized, non-mega church has lost or gained people due to their perception of our political stance (which isn’t posted anywere, by the way). Every time the elders make an adjustment to the mask policy, someone leaves and someone new comes in. It is crazy times.

  12. Jean says:

    This is really good:

    “Don’t despair. The Church is out there, but you have to bypass the sensational churches with the celeb pastor, The professional rock band, the Disney-land children’s ministry and the rock concert youth group. Look for the small and humble and there we will find Christ.”

    Reminds me of Elijah’s experience:

    “Then a great and powerful wind tore the mountains and shattered rocks before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind. After the wind came an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake. After the earthquake there was a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire. After the fire there was a soft, whispering voice.”

  13. bob1 says:

    I fully agree with Xenia’s comment that Jean reposted.

    Much media, especially in our current environment, is focused on “out-weirding” the competition.

    Meanwhile, as she noted, all the many, many good churches out there quietly following Christ and doing ongoing good works are ignored.

    It might be easier to find those stories, though, in local newspapers. But national media? Nope. Not sensational enough!

  14. Xenia says:

    One problem is that local media is fading away. The local radio stations are all owned by big corporations and only have minimal news and local newspapers have pretty much died, at least in our area. So I look to a FB group that has local news, which is not all that satisfactory.

    We have to remember that the media is not a friend to the Christian. They delight in denigrating us every chance they get. Even Fox news. Fox probably thinks they are standing up for us Christians, but they are being masterfully manipulated by the Enemy, and the results are tragic.

  15. Em says:

    One of my (3) daughters has found a small out of the mainstream church FULL of rock solid Believers – the humble pastor makes ends meet by driving a school bus
    I don’t keep up with Nazarene church, but their pastors used to always have employment in the secular world? ? ? My grandparents’ pastor owned a small furniture store……

  16. Duane Arnold says:


    The PBS documentary “Storm Lake” is very good in addressing the death of high quality local news. A friend of The Project, Art Cullen (Pulitzer Prize winner) is the editor of the local paper profiled…

  17. Xenia says:

    Em, our priest doesn’t get paid enough by our small congregation to live on, and he also has a part time job in the secular world.

  18. bob1 says:

    The Biden bill would give local news outlets ‘shot in the arm’

  19. Xenia says:

    The help would come in the form of a payroll tax credit for companies that employ eligible local journalists. <<<

    eligible local journalist…

    I see lot of room for mischief in that statement.

  20. bob1 says:

    I think it’s a needed corrective.

  21. Em says:

    Are we a Christian nation? While Michael Flynn, an RC, might not qualify, neither does rabbi Salkin……
    My father was a 32nd degree Mason Scottish rite. I guess many of the founding fathers were Masons also. What I am learning of the Masons, they are FAR from a Christian organization!

  22. Jean says:

    “Are we a Christian nation?”

    Do you see any evidence one way or the other?

  23. Em says:

    Jean, the only “evidence” I see are the folks who think we are…. a Christian nation AND on one sense of the word, I guess I’d have to agree
    HOWEVER as the old spiritual says, ” everybody talking bout heaven ain’t a book there.”
    God keep

  24. josh hamrick says:

    I don’t know why anyone would long for a Christian nation. That’s an awful idea.

  25. Dan from Georgia says:

    The idea of a Christian nation, although honestly appealing to some degree, is horrible in light of the kind of “christian” nation guys like Flynn, Hagee, and others want. They want THEIR brand of toxic (yes I said it) faith in control, and most likely with someone (you can probably guess) in charge/President indefinitely.

  26. Em says:

    Well, I do long for a “Christian world”…… The one ruled by King Jesus

  27. josh hamrick says:

    I can’t imagine a Christian nation being anything but horrific. Christianity is ground up, not top-level down. The first will be last, the weak are blessed.

  28. Dan from Georgia says:

    absolutely true Josh

  29. Michael says:

    The Constitution was explicitly written so no religious sect could control this country and knobs like Mike Flynn have to make their money from fringe lunatics who wouldn’t recognize Jesus if He kicked them in the groin ,but I wish He would anyway…

  30. Em says:

    while it’s not place to print it here, i was reading tonight something that i’d copied that Dr. Duane had quoted…. i wish it would turn up again here as it is worth a re-read for all

    “In the mid to late second century, a Christian named Mathetes, sent a letter to Diognetus (possibly the tutor of the emperor, Marcus Aurelius) in which he gave a description of what he understood it meant to bear the appellation, “Christian”. In our current day and age, we might do well to give it consideration…”
    just askin’ 🙂
    God keep

  31. Duane Arnold says:

    “Christians differ not from other men in country, or language, or customs. They do not live in any peculiar cities, or employ any particular dialect, or cultivate characteristic habits of life. The truths which they hold result not from the busy ingenuities of human thought; the counsels of man in them possess no champion. They dwell in cities, Greek and barbarian, each where he finds himself placed, and while they submit to the fashion of their country in dress and food and the general conduct of life, they yet maintain a system of interior polity, which beyond all controversy is full of admiration and wonder. The countries they inhabit are their own, but they dwell like aliens; they take their part in all privileges, as being citizens; and in all sufferings they partake as if they were strangers. In every foreign country they recognize a home; and in their home they see the place of their pilgrimage. They marry like other men, and exclude not their children from their affections: their table is open to all around them; they live in the world, but not according to its fashions; they walk on earth, but their conversation is in heaven. They obey the established laws, but in their lives transcend all law; they love all men, and are persecuted by all; they are unknown, and yet are condemned. Death to them is life; of their poverty they make many rich, and in the extremity of want they still possess all things. They are treated with dishonor, and by dishonor are made glorious; their integrity is insured by the insults which they suffer; when cursed they bless, and reproaches they pay with respect. When doing good they are punished as evil-doers; and when they are punished they rejoice as men that are raised unto life. By Jews they are treated as aliens and foes, by Greeks they are persecuted; and none of their enemies can state a ground for their enmity.”

    “In truth, Christians are to the world what the soul is to the body.” (Diog. 5-6)

  32. Muff Potter says:

    Xenia at 9:55 am:
    “Oddly, there’s a difference between a Bible-believing church and a Christ-following church.”

    Man-O’-Manischewitz you sure hit the bulls-eye at a thousand yards with that one!

  33. Em says:

    @3:18AM – Thank you, Dr. Duane. 🙏
    God keep

  34. Officerhoppy says:

    @ 5:38

    It would be disastrous. The Evangelicals would hate the Anglicans, the Baptists and the Pentecostals would disagree with each other’s theology. Hell, we can’t get along now! What a bad example it would be if we put the brand “Christian Nation” on our country.

  35. Jean says:

    There is such a thing as a Christian nation. St. Peter calls it the Church – “a holy nation.” The spirit of Christianity could influence the wider culture, if the Church possessed a Christian spirit, but not through legislation. Let Moses reign in legislation.

  36. Steve says:

    If Flynn would run in 24 for president against Biden, I would hands down vote for Flynn. I don’t think he is going away any time soon. The Dems already tried to ruin his life.

  37. Jean says:

    Are you blaming the Democrats for Flynn lying to the Vice President and the FBI?

  38. Steve says:

    Jean, lying to FBI is questionable when those charges were dropped and the FBI agents even had doubts. Flynn was forced to plead guilty to protect his own family. I would have done the same. Maybe when the Durham report drops the nation will see just how corrupt the FBI was.

  39. josh hamrick says:

    Hoppy, exactly!

    Flynn is a loony. Please, please give us better candidates!

  40. The New Victor says:

    It depends upon what is meant. Sweden was (is it still?) Declared a Lutheran nation almost 500 years ago.

    My former coworker, a Hindu through and through and a proud Desi, viewed the USA as a Christian nation in the sense that it is the majority religion, and appreciated the fact that we are largely not corrupt like India (civil service). My Vietnamese boss fondly remembers catholic charities helping him when he arrived here as a boat person after escaping Vietnam though he’s still a Buddhist. He hates the corruption so much that he no longer goes back to Vietnam (“technically illegal, Vietnamese who return to visit have to take many dollars to bribe officials…. you as non Vietnamese wouldn’t have to.”).

    So it’s the soul?

  41. Nathan Priddis says:

    Christian nations are a dime a dozen. Starting with Rome, Byzantium, Abbysinian Empire, all the Roman fragments, don’t forget the Armenians and what not. Today’s Russia and Ukraine regions have far more claim to being Christian than the Americas.

    All of these can be found to have some sort of violent or oppressive nature.

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