Kevin H: Common Sense On the End

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  1. Paige says:

    Thank you Kevin….. I had to laugh out loud at your paragraph about the newspaper eschatologists. hahahhahah

    “You know, the ones that love to take every newspaper headline and somehow apply it to the end times. Every tragic or immoral event that happens. Everything that our government is doing or what Russia or Iran is up to. And most especially Israel. If someone sneezes in Israel, it is a sign that the end must be near. (I jest…..mostly). And then you’ve got the United Nations and the Euro and the Pope and all things ecumenical. All elements they are sure are going to play major roles in the End Times. Oh, and of course, the madness of things like the Blood Moons and the Shemitah”

    My first 37 years of being a christian were in churches steeped in stuff like that…. My husband grew up in the liturgical church and never heard any of that “End Times” stuff. To this day, news stories trigger my ‘newspaper eschatologist’ and my husband always says “Oh, hmmm”.

    Amen….. steer clear of the multitude of distractions and focus on the heart of the Gospel.
    .

  2. nathan priddis says:

    It is a challenging section, but it gets easier when you realise the disciples as two separate questions about three separate things.

    -When is the destruction of the Temple buildings
    -Sign of his return
    -End of the age

    The immediate answer was, take heed that no man deceive you. That is the most important thing to understand about all three questions.

  3. The Dude says:

    I find it a little strange that India…China and Africa..South America are seeing massive conversions.The Book of Acts being played out before us.Yet here in America…….

  4. Michael says:

    The single most interesting thing about this sort of eschatology today is the ascendence of Trump…who meets a large number of qualifications to be an anti-Christ.

    The same people that are warning us all the time about “not being deceived” are embracing an adulterous strip club owner who has never asked God for forgiveness as their leader of choice.

  5. Babylon's Dread says:

    Trump figures have come and gone for centuries. I am enjoying the same the ironies and hypocrisies noted by Michael.

    My history professor warned of our lust for just this kind of leader 40 years ago when I was in College. He expected us to get so frustrated we would turn ourselves over to anyone who would promise to restore order.

    Also Michael,

    Saeed emerged publicly yesterday admitting marriage issue and promising a book and an ongoing ministry.

    The industry of religious profiteering wins far too often. But I am way too well taken care of to get too righteous about it.

  6. Michael says:

    “Saeed emerged publicly yesterday admitting marriage issue and promising a book and an ongoing ministry.”

    Of course he did…he’s right on schedule.

  7. Cash says:

    Michael,

    I totally agree with your comments on Trump. It’s almost eerie how the truth doesn’t matter to anyone when it comes to him and every charge just falls to the ground. Seems almost supernatural.

  8. Michael says:

    Cash,

    I’m certainly not saying he’s “the guy”.

    I am saying that he is great practice for the guy when he appears…

  9. Cash says:

    Michael,

    I got that and I agree with that too.

  10. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    “He expected us to get so frustrated we would turn ourselves over to anyone who would promise to restore order.”

    Why not? the German people did that also.

    But if Trump gets the nomination he will just be the reincarnation of Barry Goldwater. – with the same results.

  11. Kevin H says:

    If only the Bible would tell us if the anti-Christ is orange or not, then we would have a better idea. 🙂

  12. Michael says:

    Kevin H…that was rich. 🙂

  13. Michael says:

    MLD,

    I wish I believed your Goldwater comparison.

    I think Trump can win…and I think that will be disastrous on many fronts.

    He has given angry people a group to scapegoat while claiming that he will protect them from those they believe will harm them.

    He is the standard bearer for those who want a pound of someones flesh…but as I said before they will learn too late the flesh will be their own.

  14. Kevin H says:

    Nathan,

    I used Matthew 24 as a start, but my broader point is that understanding all of prophecy in the Bible is not an easy thing to do. Some may find some sections easier to understand than others. I am wary, however, of those who think they have it all figured out, regardless of their eschatological framework.

    And I am not one to cross swords on the subject as I’m not studied enough to take a strong stand on one position or another. My observation, limited experience, and intuition, however, tell me it’s just not so simple.

  15. Kevin H says:

    Michael,

    Glad you’re feeling well enough to participate already. Just don’t overdo it. We don’t want any relapses caused by high blood pressure. 🙂

  16. Michael says:

    Thanks Kevin. 🙂

    I’m taking it pretty easy today…

  17. Martin Luther's Disciple says:

    Michael – Trump is a media hype. If he had any traction on his own he would garner more than the 25% – 35% of the vote he gets.

    Goldwater was an oddity, but he had mainstream republican support. Rockefeller barely had a voice at the convention. I don’t see that in Trumps future.

  18. Em says:

    if we ever did find out the genesis of Trump’s run, we might be surprised
    and, as is pointed out, he only has about 1/3 of the declared Republicans… he’d fade in a flash if all the other hopefuls could get behind one person, i.e. Cruz (what i like about him is that the other politicians don’t like him)… but everyone seems to wanna be the big shot with the message – dunno
    as a nation, we’re not very good at finding strong, honest leaders – or so it seems to me

    barring divine intervention (Lord, please intervene – please), it’s President H Clinton in 2016…

  19. EricL says:

    Two thoughts that aren’t even remotely connected:
    1. The devil must be laughing at how the Second Coming has been twisted from being the great hope to being something feared (though folks will say it ain’t Jesus their scared of, but all the other stuff).
    2. If Trump wins, he will do for the national Republican party what Arnold Schwarzenegger did for the GOP in California: leave it weak and lagging, as if full of “girlie men”. By the time Arnold was done, there were no up-and-coming Republicans in CA. It was Democrats as far as you could see in all directions. I think Trump will have the same magical touch if he wins.

  20. nathan priddis says:

    @14

    My narrow example is that really, nobody is bothering to read the Scriptures carefully. That includes both those who disbelieve prophecy, and those that do believe and interpret Scripture using a newspaper.

    It’s treated as a joke.

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